Potential Church

October 10th, 2010

Something really interesting happened on 10/10/10 at 10:00 PM. Flamingo Road Church changed its name to Potential Church.

I have a few questions…

Are you not really a church, but want to be one soon?

Are you a really powerful church ready to explode?

I mean really… what is it with church names these days?

Why do churches rely on growth by programs and education of one pastor? Is it not good enough to not let man DO and solely rely upon God add to His church such as should be saved, a la Acts 2:41?

Why do churches and pastors have to PROMOTE the name of the pastor, and use them as website URLs to unify a church? Does the pastor have a brand? Are you serving your own ego?

Is there a board of elders that oversee here, like a proper New Testament church, or is it just the pastor and what he wants?

The last question I have, after having searched this website high and low tonight…

WHERE IS JESUS?

Is Potential Church so ashamed of the name of Jesus that it is nowhere to be found on the website at its inauguration?

These are questions every Christian MUST ask of their church!





57 Responses to “Potential Church”

  1. 1DeadManWalking on October 24, 2010 2:48 pm

    I am convinced that the gospel preached here is Pelagian. That gospel denies grace alone, through faith alone in Christ alone.

    It is a gospel of works….

  2. 1DeadManWalking on October 25, 2010 8:20 am

    After researching the webiste… http://www.potentialchurch.com, I am convinced, the church preaches another gospel than the one provided to us by the apostles. It is the gospel of Pelagianism that is popularized by Saddleback Church.

    It looks like Christianity, uses many of the same words… but subtly teaches that you ate not condemned by original sin, and can save yourself just by choosing to live morally.

    But pease search the site… no mention of Jesus, yet.

  3. @AdelleRibeiro on November 21, 2010 9:02 pm

    Mr. Deadman –
    I just searched their site myself – since my neighbor attends there.

    DID YOU NOT SEE THE ABOUT PAGE ? or the FAITH & MESSAGE LINK ?
    IT WAS MORE THAN CLEAR ACTUALLY …. not my denomination of church – we're actually adventist… but their theology is strong – and quality of web & graphics amazing. also watch a teaching or two.
    http://potentialchurch.com/faith-message

    or
    http://potentialchurch.com/about

    Irk the enemy …

    I'd love to hear more clarity about THIS BLOG ? whats its purpose and goal ?

    negativity is all i see here 🙁 You should speak of things pure and true and noble….

    if it depends on you – be at peace with your brother.

    In Him, Adelle

  4. Marilyn on November 22, 2010 9:53 pm

    I have attended Potential Church for 6 years and in our services you will hear the name of Jesus mentioned a lot, since it's a Bible based church,it sort of goes with out saying.
    Potential Church is out saving souls for God and believes that the only way to God is through his Son, Jesus Christ. Your information on our format is incorrect.
    What bothers me about your comments is where they are coming from. Where do you get your "facts" from(said respectively).

  5. bradfoot on November 22, 2010 10:53 pm

    I watched the video AdelleRibeiro recommended, part 1 of the God Potential series. I listened to the whole thing and was appalled. Listen to it yourself. Count the number of times YOU! was said and contrast that with the number of times Jesus was mentioned. The Baptists used to sing a song about the power in the name of Jesus. I did not hear that power being invoked. I did hear preaching that would definitely appeal to the self absorbed short attention span crowd typical of today. Maybe I am too old to appreciate this type of preaching. Maybe I am more concerned with suffering for Christ and his work of sanctification to make me usable to Him in His coming kingdom. I admit that I only listened to one sermon. What I heard reminded me of Revelation 3:14-22, written by Jesus to the Laodicean church, prophetic of the apostate age we are living in. I sure hope people are being saved. I hope they are being discipled by serious bible teachers, not just given a paraphrase bible and a good thump on the back. These are troubled times we are living in. When Jesus comes back for his own, a lot of people are going to be surprised.

  6. Michelle on December 9, 2010 8:39 pm

    or maybe your just self righteous….

  7. michelle on December 9, 2010 8:43 pm

    Whaaaat? Are you joking? You have no clue what you are talking about…lol That church is completely aware of SIN and does not teach what you just mentioned. I know I go there….Wow….Peopple get so angry when people are relevent. Jesus rode a donkey, why don't you? EXACTLY…. Think about it….

  8. Andrew on June 22, 2011 4:12 pm

    Michelle I stopped attending POTENTIAL CHURCH 2 weeks ago, I am not going to say it's a bad church, or that Jesus is not mentioned, but I have my reasons of why I am leaving….that's me and not you…..you are the only one that can have that feeling and I hope that you can feel satisfied with the preaching there. I will give you 1 of the reasons why I left….HALLOWEEN! why a church that it is preaching God's holy word will be also celebrating something so pagan….again..that's me, I don't feel that is correct and it's not the only reason why I am leaving. Ask God for discernment and God bless you!

  9. 1DeadManWalking on October 25, 2010 8:22 am

    By the way… what the heck is a "God potential?"

    It sounds almost pantheistic, too!

  10. @AdelleRibeiro on November 21, 2010 9:03 pm

    Very clear if you watch this.

    Adelle

  11. bradfoot on November 22, 2010 9:43 pm

    i watched that video and was completely flabbergasted! After saying YOU! about a hundred times he briefly mentioned something about Jesus atoning blood. The creed statement off the AboutUs page was straight from the SBC, but besides that all I heard was Laodicean preaching. I am sure he will tickle lots of ears and keep them from hearing the word of God. I have no God potential. I die to myself and live for Christ, always praying that people will see Jesus when they look in my direction.

  12. Marilyn on November 22, 2010 9:55 pm

    That is fantastic.. YOU my friend are reaching your God potential as well 🙂

  13. Michelle on December 9, 2010 8:44 pm

    its building people into disciples for Jesus…

  14. Matt on October 26, 2010 3:35 pm

    Great post on the new "potential church".

    I was a member of FRC for many years but left when the current pastor assumed leadership of the church.

    They were modeled after Saddleback Church but have now migrated to something very different. However, they are simple to understand in that they are focused almost entirely on three things: 1) The number of people (they can say and promote) attend the church; 2) The number of people (they can say and promote) have been baptized; 3) The amount of money that is given to the church.

    The most "scriptural" messages are the many that are focused on the importance of tithing and sacrificial giving–but there is virtually no disclosure as to how the funds are spent.

    The bottom line is they are led more like a business than a church and sadly, I see their existence and any "success" they may have as just another sign of the times.

  15. Marilyn on November 22, 2010 9:58 pm

    Of course we brag up the souls that have found God. Of course we brag up those that have followed Christ in baptisim. Jesus didn't want all this to be Members Only type of deal.
    The funds that a church uses are public information. Ask and you shall recieve 🙂

  16. Andrew on June 22, 2011 3:59 pm

    Matt! you have a point here……I started to dislike Potential Church from months ago, but I was afraid to be wrong and being judgmental and way too religious, but recently I have been asking God for discernment and here I am making my decision to stop attending a church that is not making me grow in God anymore. I have a lot of questions about what the church does besides the things that YOU mentioned which by the way they are on point. For example, I question the Halloween celebration there…..they do a HAUNTED HOUSE…..what GODLY church do this?, I question about charging money for couples counseling….uhmm! $75.00 an HOUR…hum?? wow…..yea I know an hour, not even for the whole section, any way it should be free. This happened to a friend of mine that needed counseling and well I looked bad by the recommendation. I question their respect to people who serve at the church……..Family Dedication Service for Church Volunteers was not preached by a live pastor but for a big screen showing a past service. Not mentioning about services rushed because they are running out of time….of course the point is to do as many services as they could so the attendance can be bigger.

  17. Anita on October 27, 2010 6:47 pm

    I have been a member of this church for years. I don’t love the new name. Actually, I don’t like it at all. But, I can say without hesitation the name of Jesus is proclaimed loudly at every service and I haven’t once heard a message not based on scriptural authority. I hope whoever runs this site spends as much time winning souls for Christ as they spend levelling baseless accusations. Christians can’t reach the world if we snipe at each other and quibble over doctrine. It’s a turnoff.

  18. SONYA KNIGHT on October 30, 2010 8:00 pm

    I've been attending the church for a year. It's different. It's youth and family centered. They play rock during praise and worship and serve free Starbucks–which you can drink during assembly. They're audio-visually driven. The pastor wears jeans and wears an earring! But he preaches the word of God with conviction directly from the Bible every Sunday.

  19. michelle on December 9, 2010 8:46 pm

    yeah… and might I add… WE ROCK! and YES Jesus is MY ROCK…

  20. SONYA KNIGHT on October 30, 2010 8:00 pm

    CONTINUED…

    I come from a Pentacostal background. I've never heard anything I disagree with. People don't shout, I haven't heard a sermon about healing and there seems to be a lot of focus on the pastor–but mainly by the congregation–they love him. They never make you feel guilty about donating for offerings. They do a lot of community outreach and they sponsor a church in Lima Peru and give to an orphanage there. As members, we don't see the accounting books, but we do get reports and video that show how funds are being used. Somethings can be improved, but that's the case with all churches. We're human.

    This church is focused on winning souls for Christ and providing an atmosphere for people to grow in the Lord. So, I'm going to stop typing now, I've said enough. I need to give the kids a bath. We have to go to church in the morning.

  21. Naomi Segers on November 4, 2010 3:02 am

    I recently started going to Potential Church and have had some amazing changes occur in my life, and mainly in my heart. I feel more spiritually alive than I have…I would say in years, but I think it would be correct to say ever. I grew up in a Christian home and was saved when I was younger so I have the fundamentals down, but the teaching I have been geting from Potential is eye-opening! I feel as though God does have a plan for my life and it is important. It may not be huge and mind-blowing, but if the excitement for God that I have now causes me to invite 1 person to church with me and they accept Jesus as their Saviour then that is big to me. That would be me excercising my “POTENTIAL” for my life and my God and that’s what the church wants us to strive towards…reaching the full potential of what Gods plan for our life is.

    Also, as Christians we all have the same goal to get people saved! That’s all that matters.

  22. Soraya on November 11, 2010 7:02 pm

    I've been attending FRC/Potential for over 2 years now. I grew up Catholic, went to Catholic school all through college and even teach in a Christian school. In my entire life I have never been inspired enough in worship to take notes. Since I have been attending Potential church I do not leave without a page full of notes and feel I have truly learned something. I miss church if for some reason I cannot attend. Do I like the new name? Not really, but I know that Christ is the center of Potential church and in a time when churches are closing Potential is bringing more and more people to Christ. That's what we all want isn't it? As long as Potential church continues to base it's teachings on scripture and Christ I will be there, and so will many lost souls who have come through the doors! Love Potential Church!!!!

  23. Adelle on November 22, 2010 11:34 pm

    Is that how you metric the bible too ?

    By how many times Jesus’ name is mentioned versus “YOU” –

    sad 🙁

    i wish blogs like this didn’t exist —

    blind comments from the depressed closets of depressed wannaBEE theologian bloggers- detached from any sense of reality — not realizing that their next door neighbor is going to hell as they continually fire away negative comments against the Church !

    adelle

  24. bradfoot on November 23, 2010 12:06 am

    I do not measure the word of God: it measures me, transforms me.
    I realize my neighbors are going to hell. Do you know my neighbors, help my neighbors, talk to my neighbors?
    Why do you resort to calling me names when you really know nothing about me?
    The fact of the matter is that I listened to the video you said would explain everything.
    All it explained to me is the church has devolved more than I had imagined.
    Jesus is coming back very soon and we need to get busy praying and getting closer to God and reflecting HIM in our lives so people will be drawn to HIM. Not worrying about OUR LIVES. Jesus said something about those that lose their lives for His sake will find them. Matt 16:25-26 Those that live for themselves, well, maybe they have some potential in THIS world.

  25. global on November 26, 2010 7:17 pm

    Where do you go to church? I want to critique it, count the times "Jesus" is said in a service because we all know that is a measure of whether a sermon is godly or not, or are you not up to the same scrutiny you hand out to others? BTW, I only counted "Jesus" be said 4 times in the WHOLE book of Titus, wow can't believe Paul would water down the gospel like that!
    Also, Acts 2:41 is a reaction to Peter going out and preaching to the unbelieving not sitting around and waiting for God to bring people to him as you make it sound. Faith without works is dead and it sounds like you are trying to fool people into not obeying the Great Commission. It sounds to me, sir, that you may be a wolf in sheeps clothing attempting to misguide people

  26. bradfoot on November 28, 2010 12:36 am

    Actually, what I was counting was the number of times YOU! was shouted compared to the preaching of the blood of Jesus.
    The whole point of the gospel is bringing man back into relationship with God.
    It has nothing to do with what God will do for YOU! It is all about Jesus!
    Listening to the pastor, his whole thrust for renaming the church Potential Church was to reach people to tap into God so they can reach their potential. I have no problem with the great commission, which if I remember, was to go and make disciples of all men, teaching them to observe everything He has commanded them to do.
    I did not write any of the articles about Potential Church; I only responded to some comments. Part of that response was listening to a sermon recommended by a commenter. I am not really into criticizing other Christians, but the preaching I heard completely appalled me. If you can sit there and read the same bible that I read and pray to the God of that bible that I pray to and believe that sermons on human potential have anything to do with bringing people to a saving knowledge of Jesus, then I will believe you and move on. I recommend you study the second and third chapters of Revelation.

  27. James on November 23, 2010 1:59 am

    I started going to FRC last year, I liked that the people who attended were different from other churches I attended.
    Once the Pensacola chapter got their new building they changed dramatically, it quickly became just another church. Very cliquish and those who wanted to become leaders brown nosed their way into the positions they wanted.
    There was a couple that wanted to started a conncet group for those that had been addicted to drugs but the brown nosers convinced the pastor that they were not fit to lead such a group and that "that" kind of group wasn't good for the church, the couple and his mother left the church after that.
    Many members of the church that donated the building to FRC are no longer attending as well as people who had been member of Hope baptist which is where most of the first member of FRC Pensacola came from.

  28. James on November 23, 2010 2:02 am

    It seems all they care about is how much money you give them and how many people they can baptise. I have seen people come into the church off the street drunk and get baptised with no couciling before or after the fact.

    I am one of many that were very upset when they began giving away Joel Olsteens book in the lobby, I see him as a Mormon used car salesman.

    When they changed the name I found out ahead of time and thought it was a joke and that the new name would make more sense.
    I had the same thought and asked someone "When will they become a real church". The leader of the connect groups isn't even in one and several of us think he's gay.

  29. Guest on December 11, 2010 9:16 pm

    He's married. To a woman 🙂

  30. James on November 23, 2010 2:03 am

    I went to a play where the writer had created a cafe that did skits. the "stars" were to be "Sugar", "Honey" and "Molasses" but they didn't show so the "substitutes" were brought in "Saccarin" "Aspartame" and "Splenda" and didn't have quite the talent of the real stars, my friend and I now refer to Potential church as Splenda church.
    I quite going the week they changed their name to Potential because it was just a plain ole stupid name .

  31. Rocky on November 27, 2010 1:13 pm

    My Goodness, this is an amazing blog. One guy takes aim at a churches site and here comes the line of accusers ready to judge and condem soley based on one message or one snapshot of a web site. Potential Church is a God fearing, bible based church who happens to love and support its Pastors. We live in different times, more modern times, but that does not dull the message.

  32. Rocky on November 27, 2010 1:13 pm

    Yes services are not held in a white building, with a choir all robed in white, and our leaders are not dressed in coats and ties and seated on stage like pious statues for the members to reach to be like. Anyone can come to this church, with tatoos, or ear rings, or tattered clothes or with mohawks or whatever. We are created in God's image and though that image may be different one from another here on earth yet it is in his image none the less.

  33. Rocky on November 27, 2010 1:13 pm

    You condem out of your own what I'm sure you see as limitless, boundless knowledge of God and yet you show just how ignorant and uninformed man can be. Then we have James which I'm sure is an alias who goes as far as knowing what is best for connect groups and calling the connect leader gay. Everyone knows that God wants to reach sinners, not gay people for heavens sake, after all, murderers and rapests and theives and liars and all other sorts can get into heaven, but not gays. "That last line by the way was sarcasim and not intended as a reason to start another blog."

  34. Rocky on November 27, 2010 1:14 pm

    People change and the church must change but God never changes. He still loves us, and persues us. He reaches into the mud and muck and saves us dirt and all, then he begins to cleanse us. He knocks off the ruff edges over time because we are a work in progress. Shame on us that would sit in a pile of rubble and speak like we know so much of what God is up to, and why some are made to suffer and others are not. God is able to deal with those in leadership as he wishes. He does not need an army of men to fulfill his wishes. If Potential church is doing Gods work then it will prosper, if it, or those in it are not, then God will bring them low in destruction. A further note to James, you quit goin a week after the named was changed, and yet you seek to attack, and do damage weeks after your leaving. I shall make you a matter of prayer and hope that God will give you peace.

  35. Rocky on November 28, 2010 9:19 am

    The point is you comment on a snapshot in time. You judge on what you think you understand. What the pastor speaks of in reaching your God potential is where you are in time now. That though God s orignal intentions for your life may have passed by due to our own failings He doesn’t throw the clay away. He still can use us right where we are, warts and all. The sermon you were so appalled about where so many “you’s” were used was to only reassure Gods people that they are special in Gods eyes and worth sending his Son to die for. Gods gift is easy to accept, man is the one that complicates it.

  36. onlyHISway on November 28, 2010 2:07 pm

    "so that no one can criticize you. live clean, innocent lives as children of God, SHINING LIKE BRIGHT LIGHTS IN A WORLD FULL OF CROOKED AND PERVERSE PEOPLE." phillipians 2:15. THAT IS WHAT POTENTIAL CHURCH IS A LIGHT

  37. michelle on December 9, 2010 8:51 pm

    I go there. I love it. I think many churches are different, but they love and serve Christ also. This church knows the Gospel. They care about baptizing because its exciting. Jesus collected an offering. You can see all there spending by request. They teach people to reach their God potential and that means discipling people in Jesus so that the enemy doesn't keep people from their mission o this earth. Discipling others and serving Jesus. Potential church is full of people. Its not perfect- but its the best church I have ever been to. The pastor is a doll and his wife are serving their faces off. These comments on this link are really sad because if we all worked together to edify and build up the body instead of earing it down more people would be coming to Christ…

  38. Antonio on December 17, 2010 4:17 pm

    All I'm looking for is a church with a college small group with genuine individuals (some cute Christian girls would be a plus). In the past few years, the authenticity of people there has faded. Everyone is a carbon copy of a fake. There is no substance.

    Also, I find it pathetic that when I see "Potential" on TV, all I see is Troy, his name, and a banner with his website. It's too self-serving for my taste.

    Just my two cents…

  39. guest on January 3, 2011 3:56 pm

    I think that discussions like this make the enemy smile.

  40. Jimena on January 16, 2011 12:03 pm

    I wonder what Jesus thinks when he sees so many in the body of Christ criticize and bring down each other . It's so sad and pathetic.. Is this how many spend there time? life is short— we, if we have put our trust in Jesus, have found life, have found hope, have found the never ending love of Jesus— and there is a world that is dying in sin, shame, pain, depression, searching for something to fulfill them, they are walking zombies on this planet… so rather than sitting on your chair, sipping your coffee and writing such an unwise post… write about what Jesus is doing through you to speak of His glories and wonderful Love and Salvation!!! I love my church… I love how God uses my pastor and others to remind me that God created me- wonderfully and marvelously- and I have potential in this world because of Him… He wants me to live in the abundant life– abundance!! That's the mission God has given us at Potential Church- to partner with People to reach their God potential… I am excited to be a part of a church body that is moving and taking risks because Jesus has changed us, forgiven us, and given us life. Please don't live your life writing and taking away the potential in people… Christ hasn't called us to this type of attitude…. Be excited where God has you– in your local church– and be a the change because Christ has changed you!

  41. debbie on January 17, 2011 11:50 pm

    Yes, the Potential name change is pretty hokey. It just screams "self-help" and "new age".

    I used to attend FRC. Those of you defending it please realize all pastors, churches are not beyond reproach and self-criticism. Pastor Troy is as fallen a human being we are. He is subject to fair criticism and so is FRC. And, based off of my personal experirence, his leadership abilities have failings, too. If you've been invovled with the church in any way and you are being honest with yourself, you know what I'm talking about.

    However, the name change is just really a surface level issue with this church. First, I want to say that Troy Gramling does a great job getting people into the church and sharing the gospel message and at saving the souls of the un-churched. (I'm one of them.) He does keep the gospel message biblically sound. I don't take issue with that at all. I take issue with what happens afterwards, and it's the reason I left FRC.

  42. marilyn on January 31, 2011 11:36 pm

    Hi Debbie, I agree with most of what you are saying but I volunteer in the Youth ministry and have not had issues at all. I'm sorry your experience wasn't up to par.

  43. Andrew on June 22, 2011 4:34 pm

    Hello Debbie! I am 100% agree with you and I did volunteer as well. I didn't have 1, 2, 3, 4, or just 5 reasons to leave Potential Church but I had a lot of reasons of why I am leaving. I know some other people like Marilyn still have to complete a cycle with Potential Church and that's fine. I thank Potential Church for 5 Years of teachings, I learned a lot but I am sure God needs me to learn something else or have a different purpose for me.

  44. debbie on January 17, 2011 11:51 pm

    However, after that, they drop the ball. They have no serious focus on discipleship at all. I don't know where people think they disciple people there. They don't. They're focus is on leadership. When I mentioned wanting to be discipled to FRC folks they basically told me to go disciple myself. Ummm…I'm new to Christ just how could I do that? FRC offers no basics of Christianity classes beyond their "Next Step" (I took Core and Gears) which were basically an introduction on the vision of the Church and not much more than that. After that, your only option is hopefully getting in a small group with a small group leader who has enough biblical foundation who can teach you something. In my first small group we just lead ourselves and in the second one, it was a complete disaster.

  45. debbie on January 17, 2011 11:52 pm

    If you get invovled you get burned by those who think your not committed enough by the inner circle of the church or some how not fitting into the "vision". Or you get burned by getting walked over by the organizational issues in the church. If you criticize the church you get a rebuttal by followers of the church which is slightly cultish – the refusal to be honest and self-critical. (As seen here – I've experienced it personally, too – defensiveness and being tattled on for expressing discontent.)

    However, the FRC worship music is awesome if you love Christian rock music. It's worth it just to go to the church for the music. Just attend your regular church for biblically sound teachings.

  46. debbie on January 17, 2011 11:52 pm

    I have since switched churches. The new church is contermporary (they still have a cross on the altar) and offers relevant teachings, too, but they remain biblically based. They also do a lot of outreach and reach a lot of people, too, like FRC. They also have many courses so that you get discipled, too. (Instead of figuring out on your own or being taught un-sound biblical principles – I was getting into Messianic Judaism briefly.)

  47. debbie on January 17, 2011 11:53 pm

    As far as the numbers are concerned. It is good that FRC reaches so many people. However when your focus is nearly entirely on numbers, you drop the ball on retaining people.(The vision or mission of FRC is focused on numbers – 50, 150, 250). It''s quality not quantity that matters. If someone is saved and then lapses back then what's the point?

    While, I know people have been saved and even transformed at FRC, I think they still fail many, many more anonymous people who just never go back and remain silent. If your experience still remains positive that's fine. Keep going to FRC, just be aware that it's okay to be self-critical sometimes. If your faith is solid, such criticism will not sway it and remain your faith is in Christ and not in FRC or Pastor Troy.

  48. Pedro on February 13, 2011 5:16 pm

    I attend the church and had early reservations. From a biblical principles perspective, FRC (i hate the new name, too) is on target. Pastor Troy is as solid as any Southern Bapist would expect.

    There are 2 issues I have with the church:

    1 – lack of leadership at the church. The "elders" are a small number of individuals all of whom are much younger than Troy. Not that age matters but wisdom does come with age and not having anyone older than Troy is a concern. Church really needs an elder board. This lack of leadership also sets it up for cultish behavior (which others mentioned).

  49. pedro on February 13, 2011 5:17 pm

    2 – focus on money. i understand and agree with messages reminding of tithing but their is an overwhelming focus on money. There are more special messages on "giving" than any other topic. At least 2 a month, Troy has a special moment to discuss giving. Recently, FRC began to air testimonials from the church. My problem with it is that most of the testimonials are setup as a direct result of tithing. That's not biblical. God is not "you scratch my back I will scratch yours". I do find it offensive
    Every organization, every church has its problems. I am sure that whatever church you attend there would be somebody who would criticize activities at the church. FRC is no different. I really love the church and its pastor. I understand the shortcomings. But we are all imperfect. God's grace is sufficient.

  50. Guest on August 15, 2011 12:32 am

    I'm a teenager and i go to the student ministry at Potential Church (and yeah i love the new name its sick and it's not hard to understand the meaning of it if you didn't have a hating bias opinion against the church already). The student ministry is amazing, its called TheRUSH (highschool) and Adrenaline (middle school) and all i ever see there is love, passion and the word of God. Pastor Troy's son is one of my best friends and i have seen his leader ship and his humble behavior, i strive to gain the leadership and relationship with God that he has, along with the Global Student pastor Scot Mendenhall. I used to be jewish and i was saved here, and do you want to know what drew me in to church? The reason so many of you shoot down Potential Church? Its because of its atmosphere ( the lights, music, people, skate ramps). Id like to put more but i dont have the attention span. So below i put a video that my church filmed and played that includes me to show they care about our growth not only as people, but as christians and to push to envelope when it comes to our relationship with God.

  51. Dave on September 3, 2011 10:46 pm

    Potential is the cotton candy of new corperate religion. Fun carnival excitment. entertaining, gimics that bring in the crowds with a talented sideshow. Where else would these people go to ge their feel good. IF GOD is the Alfa and Omega then nothing here happens outside the will of GOD. SOooo enjoy, sit back slurp up your coffee, leave the cup behind like your at the movies, enjoy the show and give nothing!!!

  52. FAITH on December 8, 2012 9:14 pm

    GOT A POINT THERE .. LOL
    ENJOY & GIVE NOTHING BECAUSE THAT IS ALL HE WANTS IS MONEY .

  53. Tina on October 7, 2011 3:49 pm

    1. Of course it's a church; 2. They are a very powerful church, with thousands of members and an array of connect groups; 3. Would you rather it be named HOPE, FIRST BAPTIST, CALVARY, CHURCH OF GOD, those names are everywhere… at least Potential Church is unique; 4. Potential is comprised of several pastors. I don't think there is anything wrong with people identifying with a particular pastor and having him and his life as a role model of how we should act. No one worships the pastor there, we worship Jesus; 5. No one has an ego. What's wrong with having someone like Troy Gramling, Joel Osteen, or Joyce Myer lead a church? People may be drawn to them, type them in google, and get connected to a church. I fail to see how that is a bad thing;

  54. tina on October 7, 2011 3:50 pm

    Continued: 6. It's not a pastor and whatever he wants. No one is forced to go to any church. If you would prefer a more traditional church, find one. The great thing about having a church on every corner means you get to willingly choose where to worship. Potential Church is not for everyone, same goes for every church out there. Find a church you like and go there; 7. Jesus is all over the Church. He is in the pastor, in the members, in the volunteers, in the children. Jesus lives in us and the church, not a website. Perhaps we should stop judging people and celebrate a church that can bring people to Jesus in the amount that Potential Church is able to.

  55. Rob on October 12, 2011 12:46 pm

    No one in this discussion can speak at all about Potential Church until they have served on staff under payroll. You're outlook on this church will soon change from CHURCH to BUSINESS. I was on staff for 11 months and had to leave because we didnt open the Bible ONCE during any staff meetings. All we were taught was the importance of being a leader, and making sure a lighting cue wasnt missed during a service. Because we all know that little things like that are responsible for people not coming to know Christ, right? WRONG. I'll never forget when Pastor Troy came to one of our services (we were a sattelite campus) and he had a meeting with us after EVERY service, explaining what went wrong. But his corrections had nothing to do with Jesus Christ. They had to do with what lighting cues were missed, and that a microphone was feeding back for half a second during a song. If this is where a churches focus is, I want no part in it. This church is over-run by a young, ignorant, self serving staff, that only cares about numbers and more numbers. I know. Because I was ON STAFF.

  56. PEREZ on December 8, 2012 9:10 pm

    I TOTALLY AGREE . POTENTIAL IS ALL ABOUT BUSINESS .

  57. BELIEVE on December 8, 2012 9:07 pm

    Honestly , Ive been attending Potential Church(coopericty) when it was named Flamingo rd Church for about 6 years now . For some odd reason , recently(more than ever) Its caught my attention. Its all a business , all 'PotentialChurch wants is money " and just to invite people to collect more money . This church is really disappointing me . I dont get that God'ly feeling anymore . Just isnt the same … not to say , all the hypocrites that volunteer . that smile right in your face ,and go head talk right behind your back . Looks say alot .. Oh and to mention , if you ever dare to leave to another church they WILL disown you , even friendships .. pfft spme Godly people Potential has .

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